[Ed. note: This may not be the "canon" version of events that took place during the early months of the FFML. Nevertheless, this may be helpful for those who are currently on the FFML who want to know what the early months were like. All addresses listed are subject to defunct-ness. As this was posted on the ML a long time ago, all rights are reserved to Damon Casale, aka Mouse, aka Kowa, aka the inheritor of the Bastard Taskmaster title...] [This is also the first recorded occurance of the "Why is there so much Ranma on this list" question. So now you see why people hate dredging it up.] The Japanese Animation Fan Fiction Mailing List Archives Scrapbook (is that title long enough for you? ;) I decided on a whim to put together a slowly lengthening scrapbook of memories, the majority of which come from the FFML. Some are from IRC, but those are harder to keep reasonably edited. This segment of the scrapbook covers October. ----- Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: The Blue Tigress Subject: Nabiki and the Airship To: fanfic@andrew.cais.com Thanks for the comments and the support! I've fixed a few things and added a bit more to it. BTW, can you think of a better name than 'Nabiki and the Airship'? Also, where should they go next - the shops or the school? Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Call me Sapphy and you die. Rwarr!" ----- Only if you were really looking carefully, and *thinking*, would you realize this early on that she wasn't as playfully violent as she usually pretended to be. But that would change... ----- All I can say is... Plucky? White Wolf Hey Sap could have sprung the Warner Brothers (and their sister Dot) on them. Ben Harrison <72440.2345@compuserve.com> To the illustrious members of the fanfic mailing list: Could someone tell me how Kunou would greet Akane? I'm not to familiar with Kunou-ese. Many thanks and may visions of anime dance through your heads. Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Call me Sapphy, and you die. Rwarr!" So I get a little silly when I'm a bit tired - Biteme (be warned I bite back) The Blue Tigress ----- I've seen worse. *grin* On October 3rd, another interesting character joined the FFML. ----- From: AlberCrombie Subject: Re: You learn something new every day. To: fanfic@andrew.cais.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:32:28 -0400 (EDT) > > > > On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, White Wolf wrote: > > > Hi! I'm Roy Rim, I'm a baka!! > > hahahahaha, BLEH!! > > RR [I'm a Baka!!] > > I'm going to show my age here....;) He's a baka, she's a baka, wouldn't you like to be a baka too? Be a baka - watch lots of anime. Be a baka - watch lots of anime. [2 points if you know where this came from.] AlberCrombie. --==-=-=-=-=-====-==-----===-=-====-----=-==-=-=-=-=-===-=-====-=----===- === cesnyd01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu URL: http://www.spd.louisville.edu/~cesnyd01/ AlberCrombie ---- The One And Only Space Gopher "Never open the door to the knock at midnight, when the moon does not shine." AlberCrombie. ----- He put up some pretty good competition for attention, for a while. 8) ----- Er, btw, how _do_ you pronounce Sapphy? *smile* Wing. [still working on a idea for a fanfic... *head thuds onto table*] Wing Tang Wong If you don't know, I'm not telling ;) If you need an idea, how about this one? Wakko Warner calls for pizza and reaches Belldandy or The Warners as Urd, Belldandy, and Skuld I thought about doing this myself then realized I have only the vaguest ideas of what Ah, My Goddess is about and what the characters look like or do. Sapphire, The Blue Tigress (wondering when she'll get around to watching AMG) "Add a little magic to your life - call for a pizza delivery" The Blue Tigress Hi Tigress, Warners as the Goddesses? *screams for a LONG time...* I'm not even going to go there... ;) But I thought of perhaps a "Pinky and the Brain and Urd." Thanks for the idea! ;) Wing. [ Cute is in the eye of the beholder! How about posting a pic and letting us decide? *smile*] Wing Tang Wong On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, White Wolf wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, John Peasley wrote: > > > #RANMA!, BGC, SNES, MK, KI, SF. > > R1/2, MDew, C++, IRC, KOR, KOC, TPath! > > That's sick. I knew what every one of those meant. Good for you! Now tell me what they all mean. I only know (or think I know) about half of them. :) > I have no life... [Cheesy elevator music plays in the background as the scene opens on a smiling man sitting behind a desk.] Man: Have no life? We can help! Just call the Please, Please, Please Get a Life Foundation! [Scene shifts to a white padded cell with patient and 2 doctors in lab coats] [Voiceover]: Our trained professionals will use specialized techniques to help. [The 2 doctors nod at each other, pull out huge mallets and advance on the patient.] [Scene shift to a college cafe. Patient is sitting with *REAL* people.] Patient (smiling at camera): Just look what PPPGALF did for me! [Scene shift back to man and desk] Man: It's not too late! Call NOW and you, too, can have a life! [Please, Please, Please Get a Life Foundation and an 800 number appear on the screen for 10 seconds.] [Fadeout] The Blue Tigress #RANMA! is an IRC channel for Ranma, BGC is Bubblegum Crisis, SNES is Super Nintendo, MK is Mortal Kombat, KI is Killer Instinct, SF is Street Fighter, R1/2 is Ranma 1/2, MDew is Mountain Dew, C++ is a programming language, IRC is Internet Relay Chat, KOR is Kimigure Orange Road, KOC is Kimigure Orange College, TPath is Twisted Path. BTW, I think I misspelled Kimigure. > > I have no life... [snipped amusing vingette] Thanks Sapphy! White Wolf *sighs thinking it's a good thing she's changing her tag line. Some people have no self control in the face of temptation.* Oh, by the way, have a free side order of spam: SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM! Sapphire, The Blue Tigress (hates when people add `y' to the end of her name) The Blue Tigress On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, They Bluey Tigressy wrote: > Sapphire, The Blue Tigress > (hates when people add `y' to the end of her name) > > And why would that bother you? Sappirey? Bruce Brunk I don't mind it when people have 'y' at the end of their names when it's supposed to as in 'Lucy' or 'Daisy' but adding it to be cutesy as in 'shaun-y' or 'Jane-y' is a bit much. My name doesn't end in 'y' and I don't want to be called 'cute'. I AM NOT CUTE! There, I feel better ;) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress (wishing she could erase the word 'cute' written all over her yearbook) "I am *not* *cute*!" The Blue Tigress ----- This started the "I am not cute!" threads. A lot of them. Meanwhile, I was busy finding out just what kinds of tastes the FFML subscribers had... ----- What in the world is Blake's 7? If you've ever seen Doctor Who, it's got about that level of special effects. If you've ever seen the original Star Trek series, it's got that kind of a story. The plot, briefly: There's a guy named Blake (obviously), who *was* the leader of a resistance group against a rather overweening Federation. He was caught, mindwiped, forced to "confess" that "I was misguided", etc., and then even that was mindwiped. They couldn't kill him, because then he'd be a martyr, and there were enough of the crumbling resistance left who didn't believe his confession. Anyway, that's all before the story starts. In the first episode, he finds some of this out. During the series, he and a group of others (hence the name, Blake's 7) go cruising around the galaxy, fighting for the rebellion. Oh yeah. It's not anime. :) ----- Then I posted my second attempt at prose. "Scyth". ----- Both of you have written using the same characters before. I'm talking about the way you treated them. Hitomi wanted to write about the relationship between them. You wrote about what was happening around them more. * Hitomi hems and haws... I did spend several years writing romance novels... * Hitomi blushes I guess that training carried over. I'll try to have a more rounded view of the characters in the future. Wait. Isn't this a *good* thing? So, who's read mine? Scyth, that is. I read it, but it is not really something that holds me. I never went in much for x-file type stories anyways, so it is probably a personal bias. I really have no comment on it. Oh well. I didn't exactly mean for it to be purely X-Filesish, especially with the focus on Laura after that. I tried to write it more as an "emotional" type story, rather than horror/X-Files towards the end. Maybe I need to fix it up a bit. Guess I'm a "romantic" too. *weak smile* White Wolf Hitomi Ichinohei Damon Casale ----- I'd always wondered if anyone paid any attention to this. Well, it certainly showed later. *smile* If there was a reason to pay attention to it, it might have been the Blue Lightning chapters I started posting fairly soon after that comment. Scifi/romance/angst, it's a very heavy, moody story. Which needed a lot of work from the comments I got. *shrug* Comments? Did I mention comments? Guess who sent some. Why would she, supposedly playfully violent and heavily into comedy for all I knew, have any interest in an angst ridden story like this one? But my brain was nonfunctional, and I didn't really think much of it back then... ----- "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but Kuno and Kasumi? What would the children be like?" "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels." "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but I can't memorize a whole opera in Yiddish." "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but elephants and kumquats aren't genetically compatible." "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?" "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking... I mean, what would the children look like?" "Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers... ...had a tea party." "1/2 can BAKA Pepper, 1 computer console, 1 assembly line. Add power surge. Mix well. Serves the whole population of MegaTokyo." The Blue Tigress ----- After I'd reread some of these .sigs, I started to worry a little. *quirked grin* ----- How about them making Quincy (or Mason/Largo depending on were you place them in time) their "SPECIAL FRIEND" *looks suspiciously at Ben* Have you been peeking? Nope, just guessing based on how I see the Warners act. Plan to have them run into the KS? Of course! Don't you want to see Priss's reaction when the Warner Brothers pop up and go 'Hellooo Rock Star Nurse!'? :) Especially after she fires the entire ammo supply of her rail gun . . . And misses with every shot!! On second thought, you couldn't have peeked. Oww, Priss is going to get along with them?? Or is the abrasive side of her just going to bounce off the Warners? Of course Nene will most likely get along with them well. Well, with all those plushies she's got, she's likely to take them home with her as pets and... [A red-black monster pops up] AAARRRGGGHHHH!!! [Dot jumps into Sapphire's arms and gives her a big hug.] Dot: Oh, you found my pet! Thank you! [Dot puts her pet away and runs off.] Ahem. As I was saying about Nene... NO COMMENT! :) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Anime Express - Never leave home without it!" Then again, until you finish the story it might be safest. But I just got the image of people doing a room by room search The Warners hide in Nene's collection (ala E.T.) the Searchers miss them The the Warners harass the people who invaded their friend Nene's Home!! Ben Harrison <72440.2345@compuserve.com> The Blue Tigress ----- After this, everyone started getting into the Warner Brothers crossover act, two of the most notable contributors being AlberCrombie and Bentley. (archive posts 1422, 1438, and 1463) Oh, did I forget to mention mine? (archive posts 1466, 1468, and 1478) ----- Poor Hitomi! Doomed to spend her life as an anime model! :) * Hitomi winces Heh. As far as I know, there are no blue tigers in anime. *GRIN* Watch me create one. Just for you. Hey, cool! Just make sure it isn't a cute fluffy blue tiger :) AH, HAH! We can fix that!!!!!! Somebody stick a cute, cuddly, fuzzy little stuffed Blue Tiger (sorta like a stuffed Mughi doll) into a fan fic, quick! No one shall be safe! (this coming from a Space Gopher - go fig.) cute? Cute? CUTE??!!??!! _I_ _AM_ _NOT_ _CUTE_ !!! *Sapphire calms down a bit I wouldn't mind being in a fanfic though ;) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "I am NOT CUTE!" The Blue Tigress Hitomi Ichinohei AlberCrombie ----- After this, I started to wonder a bit more... 8^) Hitomi seemed to mind all of the attention she was getting, concerning being compared to characters in anime. So Saf made a friendly suggestion... ----- Hitomi, Want me to express some shiny new anvils straight from Anvilania? Just pick a size. Then you can anvil Ben and anyone else. :) Oops! Dropped one, sorry. :) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Dragon! Dragon! Dragon! Dragon! " The Blue Tigress ----- Saf then made a *small* mistake. If she'd only known what she was starting... *chuckle* ----- "Smaller Boomer: Barney was busy. And the Cabbit Death Squad and the Bounty Hunter Blue Tigress from Yavin would have eaten us." Bounty Hunter? How did you know? * Sapphire pulls out a wanted - spammed or alive poster of Rob. "All right, come along quietly and you won't get hurt." :) Yavin? I'm not from Yavin. I'm from The Golden Grove! A lovely little forest with tall trees, babbling brooks, and... the finest ginsu knives in the universe! Call now and you'll receive our _free_ booklet on how to chop up your own criminals!.... Ahem. Sorry. Scratch that last bit about the knives. The Golden Grove is in no way connected with that cutthroat company. :) *Sapphire wonders if she should just let the ML write The Bubblegum Warners and just put it all together... Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Bounty Hunter from The Golden Grove - for hire" The Blue Tigress ----- Being a bounty hunter was not a good idea on a list full of comedians. *shrug* Especially when "wanted: spammed or alive" showed up in several .sigs. For some odd reason, I'd been playing with a few music modules (S3M's) I'd found on ftp.cdrom.com one day, and decided to label two of them the "theme music" for Blue Lightning. After tinkering with one a bit, that is. I asked the list if they were interested...and found that a certain Tigress was, to my surprise. After about two weeks of giving her some technical help with her WinDoze setup, it finally worked. And she enjoyed the moody pieces I'd found. Wonder of wonders... ----- The subject matter seems a bit...monochromatic? of late. Color me crazy, but... *SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES RANMA!* Please? You may now return to your regularly scheduled spam. :-) We are Ranma. Other stories are irrelavant. You will be assimiliated. * DaR keels over and dies laughing. "Sorry. That was to much to pass up." Okay, you wanna play bad-Star-Trek-jokes, do ya? Lessee... "Analysis, Spock." "Fascinating, Captain. This race of beings appears to consist entirely of dried ink. A highly unusual occurrence, if I may be so bold." "Saeba-san, did you invite these two?" "No. What's the point?" Kaori pulled out a 100,000-horsepower mallet. "Fine, I'll take care of 'em." SPAM!!! Joke at your own risk. ;) *sarcasm mode on* Are you not getting all the posts or something? I distinctly recall posting a Bubblegum Crisis/Animaniacs story on Sunday and I don't recall writing Ranma into there at all. Yeah, yeah. But you got my point. (and check out my spam! ;) *sarcasm mode off* You are right though. There *does* seem to be an awful lot of Ranma on this list. Although I think the overall winner is SPAM! SPAM! WONDERFUL SPAM! ;P Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Procrastinator Extraordinaire" (I'll finish BGW and Nabiki and the Airship eventually - in 3 months maybe? :) Nah, I could do with more variety in my diet. Spam is okay, but I getthe runs after a while. 8^) How about SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, BEANS, AND SPAM? or SPAM, SPAM, EGGS, AND SPAM? Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Mad as a hatter!" "Maybe, or maybe not, but she's definitely a silly little thing" "Who are you calling _little_? I'm *beep* tall! I just hang around with beanpoles and giants!" That's right! If you don't write a Ranma fanfic you're not part of this list's elite. :) So get crackin'! Sorry, I don't *do* Ranma. Come on, Lupin III anyone? There's gotta be a thousand decent plotlines waiting there. Sounds like maybe *you* should do Lupin III since you've obviously seen it and are a fan. :) But I'm busy writing Blue Lightning and Scyth, part II! :&( Personally, I haven't seen it yet. But I will sooner or later. :) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Anime Hunter - Who cares about bounties? I'll hunt Anime for free!" Umm, yeah. The reason why there are so many Ranma Fan-fics on this list is because Ranma Fan-fics are the easiest to write. It's one of the closest Animes to reality. Close to reality? Perhaps Maison Ikkoku. But the real reason is because Ranma hits a stability point. Nothing new ever really happens. And characters never really change. NANI?? A boy (or is it a girl?) and his/her father (or is it a panda?),do the martial arts thing. Ranma/Ranko and co. have a half a dozen love polygons (as opposed to triangles), etc. Reality? Maison Ikkoku is just a *bit* closer, thanks. :) REALITY?!?!? Ack, sorry. Actually I think they're easy to write because Ranma is the sitcom of anime. And the one with the least point to it. Maison Ikkoku is more meaningful, and harder to write, IMOHO. Ranma is one of the only animes with well defined characters. Most people can think of "What would Ranma do here..." or "What would Kuno say if..." Many other animes lack sensitivity or are overdramatic. This can be the result of bad dubbs/subs. Ranma is also one of the most entertaining anime/mangas. Maison Ikkoku can compete beautifully, then. It certainly does *not* lack sensitivity, and although some may consider it overdramatic, their tastes would tend towards the silly anyway. Mine don't, and that's one reason I can't deal with Ranma. Well that [Ranma is the sitcom of anime] too. But I think most Anime are a little too farfetched to write a resonable story about them. Take for example Tenchi Muyo. It's one of my favorite animes but you can't really make any good stories out of it unless you deviate a lot from the original. But then I could be wrong. Nah. Okay, try Lupin III. You don't really have to deviate from the original, since the "original" deviated alot from *itself* anyway. :) As I said before, there's tons of good stories waiting to be written on this one. But I don't have the time. Or the plot. *sigh* Maro To. If you don't cut that out, Steve... We slice, we dice! Ugh! :) (I must be *really* bored; I'm writing dialogue for a friend of mine) That's half of it. The other half is that the Ranma-verse has no real closure. Maison Ikkoku has a very distinct beginning/middle/end and resolves all the relationships that occur. Kimagure Orange Road is much the same way. Tenchi Muyo has closure because it's a developing story with no real gaps in it yet. Trying to insert a story into one of these is tough, since you have to be sure that it doesn't affect the continuity, or if it does then you have to insure that the universe has somewhere to go afterwards. That's one of the main reasons why fanfics on MI, etc., are so scarce. But even so, they're doable. If all else fails, there's always Lupin III, folks. Or Spirit of Wonder. Ranma on the other hand is very episodic... there isn't a terrible amount of development between the characters in the span of a couple episodes. There are spans of Maison Ikkoku where the same thing can be said. This leaves it kinda open for people to throw short adventures into it without affecting the continuity at all. In additition Ranma has a lot of different relationships (both in the romantic polygons and the other intercharacter relations) on which to hang plot threads. However it isn't too open, like UY, which has too *much* openness...there's no real goal for any of the characters, just a different weirdness every episode. That's too boring to write as fanfic. It's kind of interesting if you note which TV/manga series have the most quanitity and best quality fanfics written. In pure quantity it's Ranma, BGC, Robotech, and then DP. Quality-wise, IMO at least, about the same, possibly switching DP and Robotech (Ryan Matthews and Larry Mann's series are great). If you stop and think these are also the same series with a good amount of openness and well-defined characters. Robotech seems to be an exception in that more often the stories have new/made up characters since the plot focuses more on the mecha than the people. The other thing is that these are all the more popular/commonly seen series, most likely since the universes are good to start with. I would *not* restrict the "best quality" to those. I'd say that the best quality stories show up in quantity, in those. Ne? As Damon pointed out though, there are some other series that could easily be turned into fanfics. I think Ah-My-Goddess is an excellent platform for people looking to do romantic comedy, and Gundam would be superb for those more interested in action/mecha. For those who've read Gunsmith Cats, that would be another easy to work with action series. And the one that suprises me is the lack of City-Hunter fiction.... Hmmm... now I've got images in my head... Go ahead. City Hunter, I'd love to see a fanfic of. Wow. That turned out to be quite the lecture/rant. I'm inspired now. As soon as I finish my homework maybe I'll go jot down some ideas for some things. What, you [Damon] didn't like my Arslaan fanfic? Or the Godzilla/R1/2/ Nuku crossover? Or maybe you just like the two billion BGC stories on ftp.std.com? I took a look at the Arslaan thing, but Quantum was calling that night. It got deleted. Godzilla I sent out to lunch; I wasn't in the mood for that amount of silliness. And I usually stay away from BGC. Maybe I should be a bit more specific in my requests. SciFi. SciFi/Romance. Romantic Comedy. Comedy. It has to have a point, (unlike UY) no magic, (unlike Ranma/AMG!) but not *too* serious. Maybe I'm limiting myself a bit much, but those are my (usual) genres of choice. Hmm...scifi/romance/comedy... ...outer space/love triangle/silly traits or attitudes... ...a point...no magic...not too serious... ...interspecies relations...lots of gadgets... ...hmm... ...maybe I should start on this later as I already have two stories to finish that are competing for the first and second finished fanfic spots :) You've given me a great idea for a story though. thanks! :) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress "Quit with the new ideas and finish developing your old ones!" "All right! All right! I'm working on them!" (Hmm...talking to myself...bad sign...Warning! Identity/ies crisis in progress!) Uh oh. What have I done? ;) Anyway, not too silly either. As I said, it has to have a point to the comedy. UY and Irresponsible Captain Tylor don't. MI does. For example. What sort of 'point' do you want? Needle point? A point of view? A point of departure? Maybe that's beside the point. I was on the point of getting to the point of this message but my brain seems to have pointed me in the wrong direction. I'll try to make a point of not doing that next time. ;) (Sorry, I just couldn't resist this pointless post. *grin*) Sapphire, The Blue Tigress pointedly remarks, "I can't believe I'm contributing to the pun-pulation" How about a hardpoint? "Missiles, launched!" *Grrr*... Hey Steve, lemme borrow that katana for a second. I need to make a point. ... Maro To, whatever. No? Oh, well. I'll have to settle for a point of impact. [whips out 100,000-horsepower anime mallet] WHAM!! Senseless comedy offends my sensibilities. 8) BTW, am I replying to this thread far, far too often or something? :) Damon Casale Charles C. Liu White Wolf Bellamy Dan Root Sailor Gallifrey The Blue Tigress Roy Rim Steve J. ----- This thread just went on and on... For some odd reason, people who liked Ranma seemed to enjoy teasing me, since I didn't. *sigh* But I can truthfully claim the first .sig characters (which migrated into the message 8P ) on the FFML! YAY!! *grin* And it looks like Saf was the second. 8) And it looks like the silliness between us was just the beginning. *HUGE grin* Stay tuned for the next installment of the scrapbook... Damon Casale, [defunct address deleted]